The .35 Whelen takes up where the 30-06 stops. I have a 98 Mauser my dad built in the early sixties, Douglas barrel stamped .35/06 imp! A 375 kicks the snot out of you, a Whelen DOES NOT. The trigger was really rough and I replaced it with a Timiny , added a one piece Leupold base, and a Trijicon 3-9 X 40 scope. I prefer the 250 grain version, just because all of the areas that I hunt in Alaska are brown bear/grizzly country. The result is a fair amount of additional internal capacity (which helps keep pressures safe) and less bullet jump before the projectile engages the rifling, which commonly aids accuracy. This helps support the blog and allows me to continue to create free content that’s useful to hunters like yourself. The 35 Whelen, while never offered as a factory round (although some gunsmiths used to sell properly formed brass for it) has racked up a tremendous record all over the world, rivaling the 375 Holland and Holland in its effectiveness. The parent of this cartridge is the .30-06 Springfield, which is necked-up to accept a bullet diameter of .358 in (9.1 mm). Another alternative would be Remington's 7600, a pump action. Greater deceleration in general equals less penetration. The Lyman 50th Edition (p314-315) and Hornady 10th Edition (p692-694) reloading manuals were used as references for this article. I have an opportunity to pick one up custom build 35 whelen built on Mauser 98 action and has an ER Shaw 24 inch barrel. Regarding the 45-70, blackpowder level loads are milder than the 35 Whelen, but loaded up can recoil Just always wondered. Before .35 Whelen factory loads were widely available, handloaders were the primary source of .35 Whelen ammo. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. The so-called improved version has a sharper shoulder which theoretically at least will maintain headspace against the blow of the firing pin better. I picked up a Tikka Whitetail Hunter in a new .308, wood and blue that had been riding the wood gun rack because in that rural area everybody shoots common names. Thanks for your comment Ed! Also have a Remington 673 in .350 Remington Magnum that’s pretty much the same thing in a shorter package. Thompson/Center also offers .35 Whelen barrels for their Encore rifles. Any idea on value ? |   Shooters today enjoy an embarrassment of riches, and with the projectiles and propellants available, the .35 Whelen is far greater than it was at its birth almost 100 years ago- and it was pretty spectacular then. Remington Arms Company standardized the cartridge as a regular commercial round and first made it available in the Remington model 700 Classic in 1988.[1]. Prior to Remington opening the door for large scale production of .35 Whelen rifles, virtually every rifle in existence chambered for the cartridge was some sort of custom conversion (primarily 1898 Mausers and 1903 Springfields). The differences between the three cartridges are most apparent in the table below comparing Federal Premium’s Vital Shok 165gr Nosler Partition and 225gr Trophy Bonded Bear Claw loads for the .30-06 and .35 Whelen to Federal’s 286gr Cape Shok load for the 9.3x62mm Mauser. If you see a 0 in the Recoil As a result, most aficionados consider the .35 Whelen a 300-yard cartridge, and for the most part- and for most shooters- they're correct. I have both 30-06 and .35 Whelen Handi's. The cow dropped immediately. Thanks to legitimacy that Remington gave the cartridge in the 1980s, many of the major gun manufacturers now produce factory loaded .35 Whelen ammunition and most gun stores keep some in stock. Discussion Starter • #1 • Feb 24, 2007. My M700 Classic in 35 Whelen with 225 gr PT or 250 gr PT recoils between a 30-06 and a 300 Win Mag. For this reason, there are still lots of quality .358 bullets in production like the 200gr Barnes TTSX, 225gr Barnes I shoot 180gr, 225gr, and 250gr bullets in the Whelen. Plus, the .35 Whelen performed decently with propellants designed for the .30-06. While I'd choose a heavier bullet for use on a hunt for big, toothy bears, the TTSX is my magic bullet for all-around hunting. Everyone has a favorite hunting rifle or cartridge; mine is the 35 Whelen. Typically, I get from 98 percent load density to very slightly compressed loads with the powders I've listed. This is hotter than the Whelen. With the Barnes 200-grain TTSX, I leave one groove exposed and crimp in the second, which puts the bullet about 0.050 inch off the rifling. Suitable .358 in (9.1 mm) bullets range in weight from 150 to 300 grains (9.7 to 19.4 g). Both rifles shoot MOA. That's not to say that it shoots everything perfectly- for whatever reason, mine just won't shoot Nosler 225-grain AccuBonds accurately. It is easy to rebarrel an action to this cartridge-- it does not even require opening up the bolt face or free-boring; the rimless brass for it, as with the 358, is cheaper and easier to manufacture than the belted brass necessary for the 350 Remington, 35 Griffin and Howe (or Holland and Holland, as it is sometimes known) and 358 Norma Magnum. Clearing out the last of the inventory (prices too low to be recent manufacture). It hits considerably harder but is just as easy and inexpensive to handload. In a 1923 issue of American Rifleman Col. Whelen refers to it as "the first cartridge that I designed" and states that, "Mr. James V. Howe undertook this work of making dies, reamers, chambering tools, and of chambering the rifles, all in accordance with my design." The accompanying chart details bullet weight, velocity, and energy generated. So how does it stack up to other cartridges? My custom Remington Model 700 in .35 Whelen was built by Hill Country Rifles using a Benchmark barrel. Sometimes, choosing a tough bullet that minimizes expansion is the way to go. You want more authority. "Always do right, this will gratify some and astonish the rest" - Mark Twain, Thanks Quick great chart , i bought the remington in 35 whelen this year and I just fell in love with this caliber. The beauty of the 35 Whelen is that it’s a powerful medium-bore rifle cartridge that does not require a Magnum action. Say what you will about the .35 Whelen, but that cartridge has been a solid performer for nearly a century now with no end in sight. I shoot an Ackley Improved, and with lighter bullets and loads about equal velocity with sililar weight bullets....180-200 gr....the Whelen actually seems lighter than my 30-06. Pushed to 2,910 fps with no signs of high pressure, the 200-grain TTSX carries 1,925 fps of bullet-expanding velocity to 500 yards, where it impacts with about 1,650 ft-lbs of energy. This is rather mild load. It was originally spawned around 1922 and having Colonel Whelen's name attached to it certainly helped bring it celebrity. [4]. Odd as it may sound, I consider the .35 Whelen a far more useful sporting cartridge than the .308 Win., and in some ways it's more useful than the .30-06. Due to its wildcat roots, few American gun manufacturers made rifles chambered in .35 Whelen until the 1980s. I have shot the 30/06 and i also shoot a 45/70 handi . The original cartridge had a short shoulder with the same slope as that of the .30/06. Almost all 0.358-inch-diameter bullets have low ballistic coefficient (BC) numbers. Using a 250-grain (16 g) bullet, the .35 Whelen will generate 3,500 ft⋅lbf (4,700 J) at the muzzle from a 24 in (61 cm) barrel. http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm, Blackpowder Mortar & Cannon by Seacoast Artillery, Hand Loading Rifles & Handguns by Diamond K Brass, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. With the correct bullet choice this cartridge is suitable for virtually all thin-skinned large and dangerous game. The same goes for most species of African plains game (like impala, kudu, wildebeest, waterbuck, zebra, and even eland) as well as animals that you’ll encounter on a New Zealand hunting safari like fallow deer, rusa deer, sika deer, sambar deer, or red stag. Somewhere between 06 and 375. It's below the legal threshold for elephant and buffalo (.375 in most African countries), and frankly, it's pretty marginal for those, along with hippo, Asian buffalo, rhino, and so forth, but for any other hooved game and the big cats and bears, it's very good indeed. Not to hijack the thread, but did H&R do a big run of 35 Whelen's or something recently? I don't get scope eye, I get scope forehead. If you prefer to seat your bullets not to kiss the rifling- or are loading a dense projectile like any of the all-copper bullets on the market- crimping the mouth of your cases may significantly reduce extreme spread and standard deviation numbers. In my 45 years of big game hunting up here, I have only shot one animal (caribou) at a greater distance(400+ yds.) Created by simply necking up a .30-06 case to accept 0.358-inch-diameter projectiles, it's a superbly practical cartridge that fits in standard-length actions, is inexpensive and mild-mannered to reload, and, with correct bullet choice, is capable of cleanly taking almost anything that walks. This is how the cartridge got the nickname “The Poor Man’s Magnum.”. The work really began in earnest to dress out and cool as the outside temps were in the 70’s. Plus, for those who care about such things, four or five rounds will fit in a bolt-action magazine instead of the two or three that typically fit in a magnum rifle. It’s considerably more powerful than the .30-06 Springfield, but still fits in a standard length action with the same size bolt face as the .30-06. All were in 35 caliber. Note: some of the links below are affiliate links. While its ancestry sometimes causes shooters and reloaders to default to .30-06 powders, because of its capacity-to-bore-diameter ratio, propellants engineered for the .308 Winchester are ideal and will eke more performance out of the .35 Whelen. Hi Ed! The 35. Portland, Ore. D. Dancing Bear. The .35 Whelen is a true gentleman of a cartridge, offering considerable performance at a very civilized cost. Barrels heat slowly and hold accuracy well- at least mine does- over a long string of shots. Becides i need ed an excuse to get another handi rifle. Another factor that enables the .35 Whelen to hit much harder than the .30-06 is frontal diameter. It can be loaded down to 35 Remington speeds for light recoil and pot-shooting, or loaded up to provide terrific stopping power--more than should ever be needed by a competent rifleman facing American big game. While its origins are shrouded in mystery, the .35 Whelen's strengths are clear. Here are some .35 Whelen statistics of interest to reloaders: Bullet diameter is The cartridge was designed in the early 1920s at a time when the only way to get a .375 Magnum was to have one built up on the long expensive Magnum Mauser action. JavaScript is disabled. Colonel Townsend Whelen was one of America’s foremost gun writers and had a hand in designing a number of different rifle cartridges in the early 20th century. The.35 Whelen has over the years been available in both pump and semi-automatic Remington actions. They're consistent and have the highest capacity of those I've tested. Mr. Howe asked my permission to call this cartridge the .35 Whelen, but he alone deserves credit for its development. Different shoulders than factory!

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