There are some weapons that receive blue modifiers independently of the point value, though. I wanted to have some hard numbers on how my damage was being affected by the various buffs available, so I took some time damaging a guardian in Moderate Test of Strength with different weapons, armors, and buffs active, and then reading the damage done with Champions's Tunic. It is an elemental part of what makes this game so great. The official guidebook incorrectly includes modifier data for weapons that cannot possibly have modifiers: - Champion weapons. But now, after a dozen hours or so, I just find myself being frustrated with the durability system in the game. This is an incredible write up. Oh man, I've been waiting a long time for this. This looks like a massive amount of work. Breakable weapons are fine, especially in the early to mid game since it's kind of the scavenger theme of the game. What is especially interesting about this pair is that any Silverscale Spears able to receive upgrades will immediately revert to Zora Spears with yellow modifiers once the necessary total is reached, but there is no point during which a Zora Spear that can receive upgrades becomes a Silverscale Spear without any modifiers. How many shrines do you have to do in order to be able to get modifiers for the hylian shield? Why can't you accept the mechanics the game gives you? This was my first playthrough of BoTW when I didn't know anything about these things. Xavier Harding/Mic. IMO, mid to late game is when the breakable weapons start to feel really bad, because it just feels bad to lose cool and powerful weapons. I always equipped the full barbarian set and ate a + attack meal before fighting Lynels. Weapon's attack power and durability can be upgraded "Where to get" is the region where the weapon is most commonly encountered; Or creature that drops it; or if it's unlocked by an amiibo. NeonDragon9000 2 years ago #1. Fixed the blue modifier point requirement for the Torch; error was a result of having assumed the value instead of looking at my notes when typing this post up. I've had a Windcleaver have a modifier just one time, while inside the Yiga Hideout. Can you get a 3 attack korok leaf or something like that? Ahh, thank you for the correction. Prepare to be amazed. As it stands now, the only changes between weapons are some incredibly basic movesets and higher numbers. Which means a well rolled guardian++ weapon absolutely will outdamage the ancient weapons. Level 1: … Of course the most efficient way is always going to be just to parry their lasers, but I find it's a lot more satisfying to just hold Y to spin attack them to death, and also destroying their legs will grant extra material drops. 1 One-handed weapons; 2 Two-handed Weapons; 3 Bows; 4 Strategy Guide/Tips; 5 See also; One-handed weapons . Why is Critical Hit such a rare occurrence on weapons? Playing through BOTW right now and the game instilled me with a feeling of freedom and euphoria at first. If weapons didn't break, you'd just get the best weapons and be set for the whole run, so it would make no sense for weapons to be random pickups anymore. but I do wish at least they let us use unbreakable champion weapons, because sure is silly a weapon you get from story quest is easily broken. The reason I've brought up the previous thread is because the same mechanics that determine when certain enemies receive upgrades are also used for gradual weapon upgrades, so it's a good idea to have a grasp on them before reading this. How many shrines do you have to do in order to be able to get modifiers for the hylian shield? I think the most useful test will be the Hylian Shield. You would have to totally redesign the combat/item system. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I might have missed something, but are these points based on points gained from Monster kills or something else entirely? Goron relic remaining uses. On top of that, the Hero's Shield in particular will only ever receive a Durability Up modifier, making it even more difficult to discern whether the appropriate threshold for a better Durability Up modifer has been reached or not (but a difference between the two does exist). Added threshold for when Meteo, Blizzard, and Thunderstorm Rods revert to their weaker counterparts with yellow modifiers which had been mistakenly left out previously. Nope, Hylian Shields you buy from Granté never have any bonus. The weapons with blue modifiers will upgrade to yellow and if applicable, stronger weapons once the necessary point totals have been reached. 12.4k. According to the data mined by Leoetlino, there are a few other exceptions as well. Moblin Spear to Spiked Moblin Spear threshold added. 12.4k. Playtime. Savage Lynel Sword at a base 58 AP: With Barbarian Set > 87 AP with 41 Durability. Weapon breaking is one of several pain points in the game, and would be the easiest of those to fix. I understand the basic premise, the "last hit" deals double damage. For those that did not see that thread, it's here. Come and join the discussion about Nintendo's latest open world adventure! Interestingly, if the appropriate point total has been met for designated instances of a rolled weapon inside of an amiibo-spawned Treasure Chest to receive yellow modifiers, if the modifiers is an attack up or durability modifier, it will still display as a blue modifier. I apologize for any errors I may have made (and when putting together something as large as this, there are bound to be some), but I will fix any pointed out as soon as I can. I haven't yet determined the actual durability of the Ancient Sawblade yet, so I can't say for sure whether it's even better to use the sawblade against guardians versus just shooting them with an ancient arrow. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. 1 that I remember is a Silverscale Spear held by a Moblin. Clarified what weapons in Hyrule Castle receive modifiers. yes. level 2 Against a Guardian, you can add another 50%. 189 comments. One anecdote I've seen repeated often is that weapon scaling continues for some time after enemy scaling is completed. Soup Ladles and Pot Lids held by enemies. That's some very helpful testing, thanks. How to deal with Illusory Waterblight lance shot? However, it is missing data for bows and … Because two-handed weapons and spears play very differently compared to the standard one-handed sword, with the former being slow but powerful and the other being weak but fast, their strength thresholds for upgrades differ. thanks for the tests. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. These are seemingly limited to the Hebra Mountain, Gerudo Highlands, and around Death Mountain. Haven't made one yet. Motorcycle. So the equation should be 55+(55*1.8)=55+(99)=154. Not to mention that the 87 damage of Barb+Savage lynel sword can't be further increased whereas the 72 damage guardian sword can get another 50% from food buffs that are super common. 12.9k. Nothing is worse than falling in love with a weapon or playstyle then having to change cause it breaks. For example, an amiibo-spawned Treasure Chest that rolled a Knight's Claymore will end up being a Royal Claymore if the point total has met the appropriate threshold (and it will have a blue modifier even if the appropriate point total for designated Royal Claymores having blue modifiers have not yet been met). Ah, okay. I want to make sure I understand this. Yes, i think planning the weapon inventory is part of the charm. Here is the full list of when all possible weapon upgrades occur: Fisherman's Shield-->Fisherman's Shield (Blue), Emblazoned Shield-->Emblazoned Shield (Blue), Traveler's Shield-->Traveler's Shield (Blue), Traveler's Sword-->Traveler's Sword (Blue), Lightning Rod-->Lightning Rod (Blue) (xxxxx), Rusty Broadsword-->Rusty Broadsword (Blue), Traveler's Spear-->Traveler's Spear (Blue), Boko Shield (Blue)-->Boko Shield (Yellow), Traveler's Claymore-->Traveler's Claymore (Blue), Hunter's Shield (Blue)-->Hunter's Shield (Yellow), Fisherman's Shield (Blue)-->Fisherman's Shield (Yellow), Emblazoned Shield (Blue)-->Emblazoned Shield (Yellow), Rusty Shield (Blue)-->Rusty Shield (Yellow), Lightning Rod (Blue)-->Thunderstorm Rod (xxxxx), Iron Sledgehammer-->Iron Sledgehammer (Blue), Traveler's Spear (Blue)-->Traveler's Spear (Yellow), Traveler's Shield (Blue)-->Traveler's Shield (Yellow), Boko Shield (Yellow)-->Spiked Boko Shield, Traveler's Sword (Blue)-->Traveler's Sword (Yellow), Traveler's Bow (Blue)-->Traveler's Bow (Yellow), Traveler's Claymore (Blue)-->Traveler's Claymore (Yellow), Thunderstorm Rod-->Lightning Rod (Yellow), Spiked Boko Shield-->Spiked Boko Sheld (Blue), Moblin Club (Blue)-->Moblin Club (Yellow), Rusty Broadsword (Blue)-->Rusty Broadsword (Yellow), Lightning Rod (Yellow)-->Thunderstorm Rod (Blue), Traveler's Claymore (Yellow)-->Soldier's Claymore, Traveler's Sword (Yellow)-->Soldier's Broadsword, Spiked Boko Club-->Spiked Boko Club (Blue), Traveler's Spear (Yellow)-->Soldier's Spear, Spiked Boko Spear-->Spiked Boko Spear (Blue), Moblin Spear (Blue)-->Moblin Spear (Yellow), Traveler's Shield (Yellow)-->Soldier's Shield, Soldier's Claymore-->Soldier's Claymore (Blue), Iron Sledgehammer (Blue)-->Iron Sledgehammer (Yellow), Rusty Claymore (Blue)-->Rusty Claymore (Yellow), Soldier's Broadsword-->Soldier's Broadsword (Blue), Silver Longsword-->Silver Longsword (Blue), Moblin Club (Yellow)-->Spiked Moblin Club, Blizzard Rod (Blue)-->Blizzard Rod (Yellow), Thunderstorm Rod (Blue)-->Thunderstorm Rod (Yellow), Forest Dweller's Bow-->Forest Dweller's Bow (Blue), Spiked Boko Shield (Blue)-->Spiked Boko Shield (Yellow), Spiked Boko Club (Blue)-->Spiked Boko Club (Yellow), Spiked Boko Spear (Blue)-->Spiked Boko Spear (Yellow), Spiked Boko Bow (Blue)-->Spiked Boko Bow (Yellow), Soldier's Shield-->Soldier's Shield (Blue), Shield of the Mind's Eye-->Shield of the Mind's Eye (Blue), Cobble Crusher (Blue)-->Cobble Crusher (Yellow), Spiked Boko Bat (Blue)-->Spiked Boko Bat (Yellow), Soldier's Broadsword (Blue)-->Soldier's Broadsword (Yellow), Lizal Boomerang (Blue)-->Lizal Boomerang (Yellow), Soldier's Claymore (Blue)-->Soldier's Claymore (Yellow), Farming Hoe (Blue)-->Farming Hoe (Yellow), Spiked Moblin Club-->Spiked Moblin Club (Blue), Soldier's Spear (Blue)-->Soldier's Spear (Yellow), Rusty Halberd (Blue)-->Rusty Halberd (Yellow), Spiked Moblin Spear-->Spiked Moblin Spear (Blue), Lizal Spear (Blue)-->Lizal Spear (Yellow), Soldier's Bow (Blue)-->Soldier's Bow (Yellow), Phrenic Bow (Blue)-->Phrenic Bow (Yellow), Lizal Shield (Blue)-->Lizal Shield (Yellow), Silver Longsword (Blue)-->Silver Longsword (Yellow), Eightfold Blade (Blue)-->Eightfold Blade (Yellow), Gerudo Scimitar (Blue)-->Gerudo Scimitar (Yellow), Feathered Edge (Blue)-->Feathered Edge (Yellow), Great Frostblade-->Great Frostblade (Blue), Spiked Boko Spear (Yellow)-->Dragonbone Boko Spear, Forest Dweller's Bow (Blue)-->Forest Bow (Yellow), Mighty Lynel Bow-->Mighty Lynel Bow (Blue), Lizal Shield (Yellow)-->Reinforced Lizal Shield, Spiked Boko Bat (Yellow)-->Dragonbone Boko Bat, Spiked Boko Club (Yellow)-->Dragonbone Boko Club, Lizal Boomerang (Yellow)-->Lizal Forked Boomerang, Spiked Boko Bow (Yellow)-->Dragonbone Boko Bow, Spiked Boko Shield (Yellow)-->Dragonbone Boko Shield, Eightfold Longblade-->Eightfold Longblade (Blue), Great Thunderblade-->Great Thunderblade (Blue), Forest Dweller's Sword-->Forest Dweller's Sword (Blue), Soldier's Claymore (Yellow)-->Knight's Claymore, Giant Boomerang (Blue)-->Giant Boomerang (Yellow), Soldier's Spear (Yellow)-->Knight's Halberd, Throwing Spear (Blue)-->Throwing Spear (Yellow), Fishing Harpoon (Blue)-->Fishing Harpoon (Yellow), Forest Dweller's Spear-->Forest Dweller's Spear (Blue), Spiked Moblin Spear (Blue)-->Spiked Moblin Spear (Yellow), Lizal Spear (Yellow)-->Enhanced Lizal Spear, Lizal Bow (Yellow)-->Strengthened Lizal Bow, Kite Shield (Blue)-->Kite Shield (Yellow), Reinforced Lizal Shield-->Reinforced Lizal Shield (Blue), Guardian Shield (Blue)-->Guardian Shield (Yellow), Golden Claymore (Blue)-->Golden Claymore (Yellow), Spiked Moblin Club (Blue)-->Spiked Moblin Club (Yellow), Great Flameblade-->Great Flameblade (Blue), Soldier's Broadsword (Yellow)-->Knight's Broadsword, Gerudo Scimitar (Yellow)-->Moonlight Scimitar, Dragonbone Boko Club-->Dragonbone Boko Club (Blue), Lizal Forked Boomerang-->Lizal Forked Boomerang (Blue), Guardian Sword (Blue)-->Guardian Sword (Yellow), Dragonbone Boko Bat-->Dragonbone Boko Bat (Blue), Ancient Battle Axe (Blue)-->Ancient Battle Axe (Yellow), Serpentine Spear-->Serpentine Spear (Blue), Zora Spear (Blue)/Silverscale Spear-->Zora Spear (Yellow), Dragonbone Boko Spear-->Dragonbone Boko Spear (Blue), Enhanced Lizal Spear-->Enhanced Lizal Spear (Blue), Guardian Spear (Blue)-->Guardian Spear (Yellow), Dragonbone Boko Bow-->Dragonbone Boko Bow (Blue), Mighty Lynel Bow (Blue)-->Mighty Lynel Bow (Yellow), Eightfold Longblade (Blue)-->Eightfold Longblade (Yellow), Forest Dweller's Sword (Blue)-->Forest Dweller's Sword (Yellow), Moonlight Scimitar-->Moonlight Scimitar (Blue), Strengthened Lizal Bow-->Strengthened Lizal Bow (Blue), Soldier's Shield (Blue)-->Soldier's Shield (Yellow), Shield of the Mind's Eye (Blue)-->Shield of the Mind's Eye (Yellow), Dragonbone Boko Shield-->Dragonbone Boko Shield (Blue), Sea-Breeze Boomerang (Blue)-->Sea-Breeze Boomerang (Yellow), Knight's Claymore-->Knight's Claymore (Blue), Great Frostblade (Blue)-->Great Frostblade (Yellow), Knight's Broadsword-->Knight's Broadsword (Blue), Vicious Sickle (Yellow)-->Demon Carver (Master Mode only), Knight's Halberd-->Knight's Halberd (Blue), Spiked Moblin Spear (Yellow)-->Dragonbone Moblin Spear, Gerudo Shield (Blue)-->Gerudo Shield (Yellow), Spiked Moblin Club (Yellow)-->Dragonbone Moblin Club, Great Thunderblade (Blue)-->Great Thunderblade (Yellow), Reinforced Lizal Shield (Blue)-->Reinforced Lizal Shield (Yellow), Eightfold Longblade (Yellow)-->Edge of Duality, Moonlight Scimitar (Blue)-->Moonlight Scimitar (Yellow), Lizal Forked Boomerang (Blue)-->Lizal Forked Boomerang (Yellow), Lynel Sword (Blue)-->Lynel Sword (Yellow), Thunderblade (Blue)-->Thunderblade (Yellow), Feathered Spear (Blue)-->Feathered Spear (Yellow), Enhanced Lizal Spear (Blue)-->Enhanced Lizal Spear (Yellow), Silver Shield (Blue)-->Silver Shield (Yellow), Knight's Claymore (Blue)-->Knight's Claymore (Yellow), Lynel Crusher (Blue)-->Lynel Crusher (Yellow), Great Flameblade (Blue)-->Great Flameblade (Yellow), Strengthened Lizal Bow (Blue)-->Strengthened Lizal Bow (Yellow), Mighty Lynel Bow (Yellow)-->Savage Lynel Bow, Knight's Broadsword (Blue)-->Knight's Broadsword (Yellow), Dragonbone Boko Bat (Blue)-->Dragonbone Boko Bat (Yellow), Dragonbone Moblin Club-->Dragonbone Moblin Club (Blue), Ancient Battle Axe+-->Ancient Battle Axe+ (Blue), Zora Spear (Yellow)-->Silverscale Spear (Blue), Dragonbone Boko Spear (Blue)-->Dragonbone Boko Spear (Yellow), Dragonbone Moblin Spear-->Dragonbone Moblin Spear (Blue), Knight's Bow (Blue)-->Knight's Bow (Yellow), Dragonbone Boko Bow (Blue)-->Dragonbone Boko Bow (Yellow), Forest Dweller's Shield-->Forest Dweller's Shield (Blue), Guardian Shield+-->Guardian Shield+ (Blue), Knight's Claymore (Yellow)-->Royal Claymore, Forest Dweller's Spear (Blue)-->Forest Dweller's Spear (Yellow), Enhanced Lizal Spear (Yellow)-->Forked Lizal Spear, Lynel Spear (Blue)-->Lynel Spear (Yellow), Savage Lynel Bow-->Savage Lynel Bow (Blue), Reinforced Lizal Shield (Yellow)-->Steel Lizal Shield, Stone Smasher (Blue)-->Stone Smasher (Yellow), Lynel Crusher (Yellow)-->Mighty Lynel Crusher, Knight's Broadsword (Yellow)-->Royal Broadsword, Lizal Forked Boomerang (Yellow)-->Lizal Tri-Boomerang, Lynel Sword (Yellow)-->Mighty Lynel Sword, Strengthened Lizal Bow (Yellow)-->Steel Lizal Bow, Dragonbone Boko Club (Blue)-->Dragonbone Boko Club (Yellow), Guardian Sword+ (Blue)-->Guardian Sword+ (Yellow), Ancient Battle Axe+ (Blue)-->Ancient Battle Axe+ (Yellow), Serpentine Spear (Blue)-->Serpentine Spear (Yellow), Silverscale Spear (Blue)-->Silverscale Spear (Yellow), Guardian Spear+ (Blue)-->Guadian Spear+ (Yellow), Soldier's Shield (Yellow)-->Knight's Shield, Forest Dweller's Shield (Blue)-->Forest Dweller's Shield (Yellow), Dragonbone Boko Shield (Blue)-->Dragonbone Boko Shield (Yellow), Guardian Shield+ (Blue)-->Guardian Shield+ (Yellow), Dragonbone Moblin Club (Blue)-->Dragonbone Moblin Club (Yellow), Steel Lizal Shield-->Steel Lizal Shield (Blue), Lynel Shield (Blue)-->Lynel Shield (Yellow), Twilight Bow (Blue)-->Twilight Bow (Yellow), Royal Broadsword-->Royal Broadsword (Blue), Lizal Tri-Boomerang-->Lizal Tri-Boomerang (Blue), Mighty Lynel Sword-->Mighty Lynel Sword (Blue), Mighty Lynel Crusher-->Mighty Lynel Crusher (Blue), Knight's Halberd (Blue)-->Knight's Halberd (Yellow), Dragonbone Moblin Spear (Blue)-->Dragonbone Moblin Spear (Yellow), Forked Lizal Spear-->Forked Lizal Spear (Blue), Lynel Spear (Yellow)-->Mighty Lynel Spear, Goddess Sword (Blue)-->Goddess Sword (Yellow), Sword of the Six Sages (Blue)-->Sword of the Six Sages (Yellow), Edge of Duality (Blue)-->Edge of Duality (Yellow), Biggoron's Sword (Blue)-->Biggoron's Sword (Yellow), Savage Lynel Bow (Blue)-->Savage Lynel Bow (Yellow), Royal Claymore (Blue)-->Royal Claymore (Yellow), Demon Carver-->Demon Carver (Blue) (Master Mode only), Guardian Sword++-->Guardian Sword++ (Blue), Ancient Battle Axe++-->Guardian Battle Axe++ (Blue), Mighty Lynel Spear-->Mighty Lynel Spear (Blue), Guardian Spear++-->Guardian Spear++ (Blue), Steel Lizal Bow (Blue)-->Steel Lizal Bow (Yellow), Radiant Shield (Blue)-->Radiant Shield (Yellow), Lynel Shield (Yellow)-->Mighty Lynel Shield, Mighty Lynel Crusher (Blue)-->Mighty Lynel Crusher (Yellow), Forked Lizal Spear (Blue)-->Forked Lizal Spear (Yellow), Steel Lizal Shield (Blue)-->Steel Lizal Shield (Yellow), Guardian Shield++-->Guardian Shield++ (Blue), Mighty Lynel Sword (Blue)-->Mighty Lynel Sword (Yellow), Ancient Battle Axe++ (Blue)-->Ancient Battle Axe++ (Yellow), Mighty Lynel Shield-->Mighty Lynel Shield (Blue), Royal Broadsword (Blue)-->Royal Broadsword (Yellow), Lizal Tri-Boomerang (Blue)-->Lizal Tri-Boomerang (Yellow), Knight's Halberd (Yellow)-->Royal Halberd, Gerudo Spear (Blue)-->Gerudo Spear (Yellow), Guardian Spear++ (Blue)-->Guardian Spear++ (Yellow), Knight's Shield (Blue)-->Knight's Shield (Yellow), Guardian Shield++ (Blue)-->Guardian Shield++ (Yellow), Fierce Deity's Sword (Blue)-->Fierce Deity's Sword (Yellow), Guardian Sword++ (Blue)-->Guardian Sword++ (Yellow), Royal Guard's Sword-->Royal Guard's Sword (Blue), Royal Guard's Claymore-->Royal Guard's Claymore (Blue), Mighty Lynel Crusher (Yellow)-->Savage Lynel Crusher, Mighty Lynel Spear (Blue)-->Mighty Lynel Spear (Yellow), Demon Carver (Blue)-->Demon Carver (Yellow) (Master Mode only), Royal Guard's Bow-->Royal Guard's Bow (Blue), Mighty Lynel Shield (Blue)-->Mighty Lynel Shield (Yellow), Mighty Lynel Sword (Yellow)-->Savage Lynel Sword, Savage Lynel Crusher-->Savage Lynel Crusher (Blue), Mighty Lynel Spear (Yellow)-->Savage Lynel Spear, Mighty Lynel Shield (Yellow)-->Savage Lynel Shield, Savage Lynel Sword-->Savage Lynel Sword (Blue), Thunderspear (Blue)-->Thunderspear (Yellow), Royal Guard's Bow (Blue)-->Royal Guard's Bow (Yellow), Savage Lynel Club (Blue)-->Savage Lynel Club (Yellow), Royal Guard's Sword (Blue)-->Royal Guard's Sword (Yellow), Savage Lynel Spear-->Savage Lynel Spear (Blue), Royal Guard's Claymore (Blue)-->Royal Guard's Claymore (Yellow), Royal Shield (Blue)-->Royal Shield (Yellow), Savage Lynel Shield-->Savage Lynel Shield (Blue), Royal Guard's Spear-->Royal Guard's Spear (Blue), Royal Halberd (Blue)-->Royal Halberd (Yellow), Savage Lynel Spear (Blue)-->Savage Lynel Spear (Yellow), Royal Guard's Shield-->Royal Guard's Shield (Blue), Savage Lynel Shield (Blue)-->Savage Lynel Shield (Yellow), Savage Lynel Sword (Blue)-->Savage Lynel Sword (Yellow), Hero's Shield (Blue)-->Hero's Shield (Yellow), Royal Guard's Shield (Blue)-->Royal Guard's Shield (Yellow), Royal Guard's Spear (Blue)-->Royal Guard's Spear (Yellow), Hylian Shield (Blue)-->Hylian Shield (Yellow).
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